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Post by [USP] -Adams- on Aug 8, 2007 18:51:29 GMT -5
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Post by Killa K O on Aug 8, 2007 20:04:58 GMT -5
Socom will never be the same. Thats all i can say.
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Post by el JOKER5 on Aug 8, 2007 20:46:50 GMT -5
let the game rest in peace....
socom....died at the age of S2
none was good after that one
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Post by .Bunk. on Aug 8, 2007 22:32:47 GMT -5
THis interview proved to me that the fucking developer has no clue what the hard-core players of the game really want... WTF IS IT WITH THESE PEOPLE!!!.. THe number one reason for failure of a company is they do not listen to the customer.. if the customer is not always right; they don't spend money on you...
If I get accepted to the beta I will try it, but that I believe is the extent of my involvement with socom..
I loved the way that he blamed the dropping numbers to cc verification.. Are you serious?
I just wish that the people would make a statement and not buy their product.. But there is always a lot of retards willing to settle and dumb down...
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Post by Killa K O on Aug 9, 2007 5:33:52 GMT -5
Since its for the PS3 and the PS3 really has no good games out right now, I think it would sell. But it would still be a shitty game. I also like how they ignore the core players and try to reinvent the wheel for a broader spectrum. Lets look at 3 franchise games. Halo, added new maps, new weapons, better graphics, but same formula. GTA, different storyline, added more content, added better graphics, same formula. Ace Combat, Metal Gear, Need For Speed, Gran Turismo, Rachet and Clank, Resident Evil all the same fucking thing.
The only game to change the formula BUT listens to their customers is Madden. Socom might have a new company, but it will still have the same problems.
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Post by .Bunk. on Aug 9, 2007 9:28:44 GMT -5
Well fucking said.. I told those guys you were not stupid...
I am curious to see how the core players like the beta.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2007 12:26:30 GMT -5
but there will never be the perfect socom because everyone has a different opinion, what if the ppl that made socom were listening to gamers and they took different ideas from different ppl and put it into the game, but its not what we want but we are not the only ppl. get what im saying
and for that fact that is why there will never be a perfect game period
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Post by el JOKER5 on Aug 9, 2007 12:41:11 GMT -5
to us diehard socomer's...the perfect socom's were S1 & S2. S1 was an instant classic. everyone loved it & was like we should just get more maps. so zipper left the same concept & gave us S2. WOW...great game, spent more hours on that one then S1. next thing they do is introduce way bigger maps & vehicles, and made it into a snipers game. this is where diehard fans start dropping off instead of gaining more ground. they changed the concept of what we loved. the age old saying goes...if it aint broke dont fix it. and that was in the case...dont fix something that was working.
busta....this is not a knock on you by no means. but you wasn't around when the S1 series stole our hearts and made us eat, sleep, shit socom (wifes were ready to leave us & same with the GF's). yes you came in towards the end of S2 and beginning of S3. so to you these to games were good. you really couldn't get the effect of how much we hate, what zipper has done to such a great game. if you was there with us on S1 you would see our bitter anger.
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Post by [USP] -Adams- on Aug 9, 2007 13:34:21 GMT -5
Dido dido dido, JOKER WELL SAID!!! I agree with every single word I just wish zipper did. They are idiots!
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Post by xxxxxBAMAxxxxx on Aug 9, 2007 13:44:09 GMT -5
Think I was the 4th member of (FMJ)Sniperguy ! I loved Socom 1 and always knew Tank was a cheater. He finally admitted that to me too. lol Little shit ! Anyways, I think they should go back and look at Socom1 (the roots) and make it as it was. I would go buy a playstation 3 if they were to drop a Socom that I knew and loved. If they would charge a little fee for online as Xbox Live and give us that lagg free gameplay we would be back to losing wifes and gf's again !
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Post by el JOKER5 on Aug 9, 2007 14:22:54 GMT -5
Think I was the 4th member of (FMJ)Sniperguy ! that's right snipe you an OG FMJ/SGP family member...there are only a hand full of us that can say that. i tell you i miss those FMJ SOCOM 1 nights. those were the best.... your bringing a tear to my eye
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2007 14:47:12 GMT -5
i never played socom 1 and everyone that i know that played socom said S1 was the best so i dont know how it feels but i joined the socom world when socom 2 first came out but i just wasnt in sgp and for me socom2 was the best, but im saying is that when zipper was trying to "improve" socom by coming out with S3 im sure they got the ideas for big maps and guns and stuff by gamers, and i remember everyone loving the idea of big maps and weapons and vehicles before S3 came out when Bunk was beta testing and teasing us with those video clips of him playing
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Post by el JOKER5 on Aug 9, 2007 16:47:43 GMT -5
im saying is that when zipper was trying to "improve" socom by coming out with S3 im sure they got the ideas for big maps and guns and stuff by gamers to be honest... i believe zipper got the ideas for big maps and vehicles, not from gamers but from other games. from games that were creating havoc on other consoles & pc's. game's like Halo 1 & 2, Ghost Recons, Rainbow 6's, Counter Strike, & Unreal Tourny. these games have owned the multiplayer's of online & zipper said to themselves...hmmm, if so many people love these games, then we should be making SOCOM like these games since so many people love them. zipper had a formula that was working...a real 3rd person shooter that was working. but they wanted to put these FPS ideas into their game. wrong idea..that is where the game starts going to hell. now whe got the new socom going to over the shoulder view...why oh why??? stop trying to be like GRAW and stay with the true 3rd person view. things like that will not make me want socom. they keep taking piece by piece everything we love about socom. soon the only thing left will be the name.
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Post by .Bunk. on Aug 9, 2007 17:37:09 GMT -5
My input, I did make those videos of socom 3 because the whole idead was a nice one for about a week, then I was cringing for the days of yor.
I actually got separated from my wife because of socom, she hated the fuck out of it,, my kids basic first workds were "3rd floor middle building" and "man down".. I loved it.. I miss the days we used to pack many rooms at the same time, when we used to go room hopping and everyone in there knew who we was.
They did change the game too much,. What zipper failed to realize is that although people wanted more shit in the games, it wasn't because we really wanted it but because they failed to fix the little shit that pissed us off while playing the games we fucking loved... Fix the lag, hit detection and cheating and I would still be playing it right now..
The rooms were full, they said, add 16 more players, we thought nice.. now we can have more of our friends in the room.. OK, great for the first 2 months, then people were getting off track in the game... I wish it was back to 8v8. It's more personable, people can have more fun and the games never go the distance since it is always a pleasureto go and hunt your prey in rats nest and DG... among other maps...
I wish they would go back to 16 players and give us the old shit on a new engine with awesome graphics, the OG maps and the new maps integrated to make it more playable. I wish they would get rid of the vehicles and tanks since this aint battlefield and bring the original rats nest back.. Shit, fuck around and add snow on the inside too.. Awesome.. right??
But what we will get may be the end of days for them if they continue on this trend.. They need to go back like they said they would..
Man I miss the days when sitting in the spectators room was fun cuz we'd be joking on cats playing while we waited for a spot in the room, which sometimes could be almost an hour....
I too miss those days, we had the best fucking time ever and I wish I could go back to the days that the Allied Clans began the transformation into becoming the most dominating force on socom.. we owned it all...and made the rules. East 9 will forever be our bitch...
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Post by Killa K O on Aug 9, 2007 18:43:57 GMT -5
yeah, I miss those days too. Rushing home from work, logging on by 8p for warmups, practice room at 9p and war time by 10p. Man did my wife hate that game, I would put off sex, and dinner just to win a clan match. M-W was dedicated to Socom, Th-F was for the wife, and Sat and Sun was a toss up. I also miss hearing Zone say bitch for the zillionth time, I miss watching half of our clan team kill each other with well placed grenades at the start of every match and I also miss hearing P's voice get all high pitched and whiney like a little girl.
I actually had S1 for a while and it was P who conviced me to play the game online. Back then I was TerminHater, and every time I came into E9, I was owned within seconds. S1 and S2 were and still are my favorite games of all time, even though I don't play them anymore. I just hope Call of Duty 4 can recreate that effect. Too bad I don't have the time to play games that much anymore.
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