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Post by xxxxxBAMAxxxxx on May 6, 2008 16:30:01 GMT -5
This is from my class. I thought it was a rather interesting topic and wanted to see your thoughts on it. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To better understand the logic that supports arguments, we will discuss a controversial issue in the United States, capital punishment, or the death penalty.
The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution implies that the government has the power to inflict capital punishment (the death penalty) on persons convicted of certain crimes. The Amendment states: 'No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb, nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.'
Many people believe, however, that capital punishment should be abolished in the U.S. as it has been in half the countries in the world.
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So my question to you guys is, Do you think that the Death Penalty makes people think twice before they commit a murder. And also do you think it actually decreases the number of murders in our Country ?
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Post by xxxxxBAMAxxxxx on May 6, 2008 16:31:06 GMT -5
This was my post from our school disscusion boards.
Well,
I am sure everybody will have there own opinion about this subject and I hope anything that I say won't make anybody mad. It's just my opinion. With that said I think that a person that kills should be sentenced to death. Regardless of the situation. If you are drinking and driving and kill someone then so be it. That is why we have a law not to drink and drive. And I think we should sentence whomever murdered to the exact death that they committed. For instance, if they shoot somebody then they should be executed by gunshot. I know this may sound harsh and cruel but I think that it would make people think twice before pulling out a gun. Regardless if they are drunk or on drugs. That's why we have laws that make things illegal. If a crack head shoots somebody, you can obviously say he did it because he was on crack. But does that make it justified ? No, I don't believe so. That is why crack is illegal. I am sure that other countries have stiffer things than we do in our country. Again this is only my opinion and don't want anyone to take it personal.
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Post by USPReagan on May 6, 2008 16:44:27 GMT -5
I agree with the death penalty. But it needs to be used in good judgment.
Bama, you said that if you kill someone, you should get it, end of story. I have a scenario for you.
A few years ago, a guy I work with was going through a divorce. He had 2 children. He worked his regular 3rd shift job with me, and also picked up a second job during the day to support himself during the divorce and custody battle.
A few weeks went by, and I could tell that working 2 jobs and all the stress was taking it's toll on him. Well, wouldn't you know it, one morning after the 3rd shift job, guy falls asleep at the wheel, hits a woman head on, kills her instantly. He walks away with a few bruises. COme to find out, the woman he killed was the aunt of a supervisor we worked with. So now on top of the divorce, custody battle, killing someone, he has to look at the nephew of the woman he killed every night.
Did he deserve the death penalty?
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Post by xxxxxBAMAxxxxx on May 6, 2008 21:36:27 GMT -5
He didn't break the law so no he wouldn't. How can you give him the death penalty for an accident? Do you consider that murder ? I deffinately wouldn't. Commiting murder is another category then what you just wrote down. Unless he was under the influence of something then he wouldn't have commited a crime correct? Accidents happen....
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Post by -Jackson- on May 7, 2008 2:10:26 GMT -5
This was my post from our school disscusion boards. Well, I am sure everybody will have there own opinion about this subject and I hope anything that I say won't make anybody mad. It's just my opinion. With that said I think that a person that kills should be sentenced to death. Regardless of the situation. If you are drinking and driving and kill someone then so be it. That is why we have a law not to drink and drive. And I think we should sentence whomever murdered to the exact death that they committed. For instance, if they shoot somebody then they should be executed by gunshot. I know this may sound harsh and cruel but I think that it would make people think twice before pulling out a gun. Regardless if they are drunk or on drugs. That's why we have laws that make things illegal. If a crack head shoots somebody, you can obviously say he did it because he was on crack. But does that make it justified ? No, I don't believe so. That is why crack is illegal. I am sure that other countries have stiffer things than we do in our country. Again this is only my opinion and don't want anyone to take it personal. Now you're contradicting yourself. According to what you posted above in yellow Reagan's friend should get the axe.
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Post by xxxxxBAMAxxxxx on May 7, 2008 7:33:59 GMT -5
If you look at my overall post it is talking about murder. You are idiots if you think an accident is murder. You guys are trying to make this into something it's not. And when I say regardless of the situation is does NOT mean "accidents".
Now if you read the sentence before your highlights it reads... "With that said I think that a person that kills should be sentenced to death." and if you read on I go to say something about drinking and driving and about doing drugs. You should clearly understand that it would be if you broken the law.
Now since you can't understand that I will reword my shit. Regardless of the post above I still have the same opinion. If you "MURDER" someone then you should get the death penalty. No accident even would come close to somebody getting a death penalty. That is just stupid for anyone to think such a thing.
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Post by [USP] -Adams- on May 7, 2008 8:33:43 GMT -5
I believe in the death penalty, for first degree murder. First degree murder is murder that is premeditated. The accused would be guilty of planning the victims death. In a case like this the last thing I want is my tax dollars going to feed this scum bag. Kill the individual and move on.
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Post by .HacK on May 7, 2008 12:05:11 GMT -5
If you look at my overall post it is talking about murder. You are idiots if you think an accident is murder. You guys are trying to make this into something it's not. And when I say regardless of the situation is does NOT mean "accidents". Now if you read the sentence before your highlights it reads... "With that said I think that a person that kills should be sentenced to death." and if you read on I go to say something about drinking and driving and about doing drugs. You should clearly understand that it would be if you broken the law. Now since you can't understand that I will reword my shit. Regardless of the post above I still have the same opinion. If you "MURDER" someone then you should get the death penalty. No accident even would come close to somebody getting a death penalty. That is just stupid for anyone to think such a thing. how is he an idiot did that man kill that woman when he hit her with his car yes or no answear that question with just a yes or no no long explantion its only a yes or no answear
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Post by el JOKER5 on May 7, 2008 12:55:25 GMT -5
here we go...
ROUND 1:
"DING"
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Post by xxxxxBAMAxxxxx on May 7, 2008 13:34:52 GMT -5
Your an idiot if you can not get my point. Let me set all this staright. Regardless of how you read my first topic. This is my opinion with more clarity so you can possibly understand it.
If you commit "murder" then you should be given the death penalty. If you have an "accident" then no you should not get the death penalty. Does this fix things so you can comprehend what I am getting at. You guys are taking something and throwing it out of the window. As I said, regardless of my first post. You guys can not understand my deffinition so I am explaining it right here. If you commit "MURDER" then you should get the death penalty. Everybody on the same page now ? That is "MY" opinion. I asked for you to state "yours" not jump on me for what my opinion is. Now can we all relate ?
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Post by xxxxxBAMAxxxxx on May 7, 2008 13:40:06 GMT -5
If you look at my overall post it is talking about murder. You are idiots if you think an accident is murder. You guys are trying to make this into something it's not. And when I say regardless of the situation is does NOT mean "accidents". Now if you read the sentence before your highlights it reads... "With that said I think that a person that kills should be sentenced to death." and if you read on I go to say something about drinking and driving and about doing drugs. You should clearly understand that it would be if you broken the law. Now since you can't understand that I will reword my shit. Regardless of the post above I still have the same opinion. If you "MURDER" someone then you should get the death penalty. No accident even would come close to somebody getting a death penalty. That is just stupid for anyone to think such a thing. how is he an idiot did that man kill that woman when he hit her with his car yes or no answear that question with just a yes or no no long explantion its only a yes or no answear And I would also like to add i did not call him an idiot. I said..and I quote... "You are idiots if you think an accident is murder." And if you think that then yes I am calling you an idiot. And "yes" he killed her but that is not "murder"! How can you even put that in the same category as a "Death Penalty" situation ? If I still am not clear, MURDER=DEATH PENALTY ACCIDENT= ACCIDENT Clear enough ?
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Post by USPReagan on May 7, 2008 14:28:51 GMT -5
Holy shit man, settle down! Don't be coming on here posting controversial shit if you can not debate about it without getting all pissed off!
I said that because, for one, you did NOT make it clear that you were only talking about murder in your original post. You started off saying "regardless of the situation", and then giving examples of murder. So I am supposed to just assume that you only meant murder? If you had clarified your examples and worded like you did the second time, this misunderstanding would not have happened.
But seriously man, unless I'm a jackass, you really get fired up whenever your opinion is questioned or debated. We're all adults here, and should be able to debate back and forth and disagree without getting mad at eacgh other. Maybe I am misunderstanding your emotions through your posts on here, but personally, you come off angry as hell.
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Post by xxxxxBAMAxxxxx on May 7, 2008 17:03:59 GMT -5
lol Nah Im not angry. If anything, aggrevated that you couldn't understand what I wrote in my first post. So that is why I went into my explanations. And I wouldn't post it if I wasn't going to debate it. I still would like to know everyones opinion on it. But I am NOT mad and won't get mad. Known a lot of people on here for a long time. It takes a lot to just piss me off and walk away.
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Post by .HacK on May 8, 2008 3:23:28 GMT -5
now ur distorting the facts about what you typed. to start the beginning you typed after you brought up the question "This was my post from our school disscusion boards.
Well,
I am sure everybody will have there own opinion about this subject and I hope anything that I say won't make anybody mad. It's just my opinion. With that said I think that a person that kills should be sentenced to death. Regardless of the situation. If you are drinking and driving and kill someone then so be it. That is why we have a law not to drink and drive. And I think we should sentence whomever murdered to the exact death that they committed. For instance, if they shoot somebody then they should be executed by gunshot. I know this may sound harsh and cruel but I think that it would make people think twice before pulling out a gun. Regardless if they are drunk or on drugs. That's why we have laws that make things illegal. If a crack head shoots somebody, you can obviously say he did it because he was on crack. But does that make it justified ? No, I don't believe so. That is why crack is illegal. I am sure that other countries have stiffer things than we do in our country. Again this is only my opinion and don't want anyone to take it personal."
(for all you kiddies out there pay attention to the red text)
then reagen typed
"I agree with the death penalty. But it needs to be used in good judgment.
Bama, you said that if you kill someone, you should get it, end of story. I have a scenario for you.
A few years ago, a guy I work with was going through a divorce. He had 2 children. He worked his regular 3rd shift job with me, and also picked up a second job during the day to support himself during the divorce and custody battle.
A few weeks went by, and I could tell that working 2 jobs and all the stress was taking it's toll on him. Well, wouldn't you know it, one morning after the 3rd shift job, guy falls asleep at the wheel, hits a woman head on, kills her instantly. He walks away with a few bruises. COme to find out, the woman he killed was the aunt of a supervisor we worked with. So now on top of the divorce, custody battle, killing someone, he has to look at the nephew of the woman he killed every night.
Did he deserve the death penalty?" then you typed
"I agree with the death penalty. But it needs to be used in good judgment.
Bama, you said that if you kill someone, you should get it, end of story. I have a scenario for you.
A few years ago, a guy I work with was going through a divorce. He had 2 children. He worked his regular 3rd shift job with me, and also picked up a second job during the day to support himself during the divorce and custody battle.
A few weeks went by, and I could tell that working 2 jobs and all the stress was taking it's toll on him. Well, wouldn't you know it, one morning after the 3rd shift job, guy falls asleep at the wheel, hits a woman head on, kills her instantly. He walks away with a few bruises. COme to find out, the woman he killed was the aunt of a supervisor we worked with. So now on top of the divorce, custody battle, killing someone, he has to look at the nephew of the woman he killed every night.
Did he deserve the death penalty?" then jackson quoted your text and said that you just contradicted your self and you went off and called us all idiots(i really think you ment to say idiot and accidently put the s at the end, but im nice i will give you the benifit of the doubt)
but jackson was right you did contradict your self if you dont believe me read the red text and for futrue references me and my good friend webster will explain "Regardless of the situation" to not care about an event
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Post by .HacK on May 8, 2008 3:25:06 GMT -5
And if we all idiots the only idiotic thing i did was par-take in this stupid fucken conversation
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