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Post by el JOKER5 on Nov 24, 2005 22:18:03 GMT -5
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Post by .Bunk. on Nov 24, 2005 23:26:00 GMT -5
I know that 3-400 cost was too low, the ps3 will be a new technology game console with a blu-ray dvd player. blu-ray stand alones cost about 900 bucks, now pair that with game console hardware that isnt cheap at jumpoff and that price will be higher then 600, real value at about 1,000. Hopefully they will have made so many at drop date that the price of manufacturing and hardware will cost less.
They are bound to lose money in the first couple of months until they sell enuff to actually turn a profit.
I just cant wait for it tho...
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Post by [USK] KillaP on Nov 25, 2005 10:42:34 GMT -5
microsoft loses about $200 per xbox they sell I hear. It cost $200 or so more to make per unit. So they make their money back on software and services.
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Post by .Bunk. on Jan 8, 2006 4:14:46 GMT -5
Latest from CES:
Sony held the PlayStation 3 close to its vest at CES, with only a few game trailers playing in a loop and a system mockup under glass. The only real details available are that Unreal Tournament 2007 and Metal Gear Solid 4 will be PlayStation 3 games, the system will play Blu-ray discs, and Sony is still sticking to the boomerang design. Rumors have circulated around the CES floor from certain manufacturers in the Blu-ray camp that the PS3 will cost as much as $800 and will be released in early 2007. Of course, these rumors were being spread by companies that are producing competing Blu-ray devices. Hopefully, Sony will reveal more details about its next-gen console at E3 in May.
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Post by YungAssassin on Jan 8, 2006 7:18:26 GMT -5
now i know why the site has been getting quieter and quieter.......bunk is fucking boring everybody to death with all his posts.......bunk livin up ur posts man........ur killin us...and the site.
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Post by shocker on Feb 4, 2006 10:19:00 GMT -5
Everyone save your money, pre-order 2-3 of them, keep one and sell the rest off. It will probably end up being something like what happened with the 360.
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Post by .Bunk. on Feb 4, 2006 19:10:41 GMT -5
Shock, I was going to do that, the problem is there is no real forcast for it.. These bastards are still assuming that its coming out in spring? I guess september is spring since EB games and em allow pre-orders 6 months in advance and they still aint got no info for when the ps3 is going to come out.
I told mofo's they aint planning on dropping this joint anytime soon. If they do they gonna do an overnight drop and surpsise the shit out of everyone.
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Post by shocker on Feb 7, 2006 10:51:27 GMT -5
I don't think there is any way they would just surprise everyone. They are going to have a release date for it so everyone can wait in lines and pay a ludacris amount for them, then the whole ebay bs will start. I don't care though, either way I am going to end up waiting months after its release before I consider buying one. The first batch is always fubar anyways.
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Post by .Bunk. on Feb 7, 2006 12:33:48 GMT -5
yeah, fo sho, thats why u get rid if them on ebay. The second and 3rd batch is way better. I heard today from someone that they were going to drop them in march. I doubt it since I got no sony confirmation.
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Post by .Bunk. on Feb 7, 2006 13:01:51 GMT -5
i found this | Sony fires Josh Robinson for speaking out. Date posted: 02 Febuary 2006 | Print Page In a recent interview with PS3Week it has been revealed that Josh Robinson has been fired for speaking out about PS3 development in a blog post a couple of months back. It appears that Josh was fired in part when Sony invoked his NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) and claimed that he violated it through his communications, possibly in regard to the coming E3 show. Let me first just say, all I really did was write a few paragraphs that gave my opinion on publicly released information. I never actually released any information. After reading my small article the reader is not any more informed about the PS3 than he was before the article. I didn’t reveal any tech info and I didn’t reveal different shipping plans. I’m still in awe at the whole uproar over what amounts to NO information. We wish Josh the best in his new endevours and will happily stand shoulder to shoulder with him in the long lines at the PS3 launch. For more information on this, please check out last article - www.ps3portal.com/ps3/article/250.html
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Post by .Bunk. on Feb 8, 2006 9:21:51 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Here is the article that they fired him over: [/glow]
Starting a couple of days ago a brief storm erupted in the gaming corners of the internet regarding the comments made by a person who contributed to a demo that ran on the PS3 alpha hardware back at E3 2005.
Questions and comments flooded news sites and message boards alike. Some praising him for speaking out, others questioning his real intentions and credentials.
Today, the website which original hosted Josh Robinson's comments, Down in Front, has removed his comments and replaced them with the following.
"Sorry chiclitl - I had to remove your last post.
We removed the post for a reason. I can’t go into it any more until I talk with the other members of DIF. When we clear things up, we’ll post it again. =)
Thanks - And welcome to Down in Front!"
For the time being we will leave it up to our readers to decide what may have occured here and bring you any new information we discover.
Below we have a complete transcript of the original post curtosy of Google Cache.
"I’ve spent some time the past year developing for the PS3. Actually it was a cinematic demo to be shown at e3 in 2005 at a closed door viewing. I was one of the few artists selected to work on it for the demo. My job was primarily asset creation. I was creating assets to populate the path where our camera would be flying during the demo. The company I work for is also working on a launch title that I am quite familiar with. In short, I’ve spent some time around the PS3 and or the teams developing for it.
I’ve really had to sit here and think for a long time about what my first comment about the PS3 would be. Will I say, its GREAT or will I give it two thumbs down. Well my immediate impression of the PS3 is…where is it? Seriously, where is it? They have a case, a controller and a dev kit. But the system still doesn’t even exist. So what is there to say? We received one of 5 PS3 dev kits in the United States some time ago. Several companies in the US as well as companies over seas were given the daunting task of creating a demo in less than 9 weeks on a first generation dev kit. Now I’ll be honest with you. What most companies do is fake the entire demo. I mean they come up with some great visuals and neat tricks and scripted events. In the end however, its not a real time demo and its not running ON the actual box. We were the only company to my knowledge that showed something that ran it live on the box. Even then it was a scripted event. You could not pause the camera and fly around the scene. So if you saw the demo once, you saw it again the exact same way the second time. Also this was on a brutally early dev box. You could always tell where the PS3 dev box was because it’s the room that had the f-bomb coming out of it half the day.
Lots of time has passed since that demo and the dev box has gone from a totally jimmy rigged computer and box of parts about the size of a small child, to a much more realistic size. Although its still the size of a normal pc. I have been pretty excited about the whole cell processing thing. I am not a very technical person but my understanding of it was pretty clear. (Multiple processors to handle individual events in parallel). Sounds pretty good to me! To hear people talk, you’d thing that a processor revolution was about to happen. So I’ve been pretty excited to say the least. Now in my opinion it doesn’t matter how good the PS3 is. If the XBOX 360 is better, then it doesn’t really matter how the cell processors work or how good they say it is. Realistically one of them will be better over all. Now I’ve spoken with people who are on the technical side of the PS3. I’ve also talked with people on the technical side of the XBOX 360. The consistent comment I am hearing from people on my end is, “The XBOX 360 is better”. They are saying that it is capable of just doing more. (shrugs) Now take that for what its worth. If you watch all the videos on the PS3 they will say how much more powerful it is than the XBOX and vice versa. Im just telling you what I am hearing. They proceeded to go into a lot of technical info that I don’t understand. So I just nod.
The game that we are creating for a launch title is a “just get it out” title in my opinion. It doesn’t look next generation. I don’t see how anyone could debate otherwise. It looks good. But it looks good for a game that has come out in the last couple years or so. I mean we are talking about a box that will be with us for the next 5+ years! In 5 years will the games we are making today look good? The only way for that to be possible is if the new games coming out for the PS3 are drastically improved. So good that they can stand the test of time until the next system comes out. We’ve all seen Gears of War for the xbox 360. If that even looks half as good when it comes out then I’ll be floored! The game we are making isn’t even in the same league as Gears of War. In fact there are many current games out that look just as good and are using the exact same specs. So, on our end we are either not pushing the bar or were just trying to “get a title out”. To be fair, this is a business. Sometimes you have to treat it as a business and not make the best title you can. The best title you can make usually costs 20-40million dollars/3 start overs and 4 years of your life. You just cant do that every time out. Its impossible. Our game just keeps getting moved back….and back…..and back…..and back. Again, where is the box? Where is the final system? When is it coming out? No one knows and in the mean time people in the industry are starting to get just a little salty. I mean I was at e3 2005 and PS3 was almost no where to be seen.
In closing, I started of VERY excited about the PS3. I was very confident that it was going to just destroy the XBOX 360 just on the name SONY alone. The more time that goes by the more I am becoming doubtful. Everything I’ve developed or seen developed has yet to be “next gen”. The poly counts are not really any higher, im not seeing sub surface scattering, im not seeing much HDR lighting. (or they are faking it and not really doing it), I’m not seeing next gen fluid dynamics or object dynamics. I suspect that you’ll be able to have more dynamic objects in a scene than before. But im not seeing games doing this yet. We dont have a controller, there is no network code and there is no box. Its still the size of a normal PC. Oh well, at least they have normal maps. Although I’m over the normal maps fad ok everyone!
I’m confident that the PS3 will have a few “crazy” games that show it off to its potential. But I would expect the full capabilities of the box to not show up until the system has been released PUBLICALLY for over a year. This is the extra time the developers will need with a FINAL system to truly make next gen games."
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Post by YungAssassin on Feb 8, 2006 19:33:30 GMT -5
who the hell is that guy and who cares?
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Post by .Bunk. on Feb 9, 2006 0:54:26 GMT -5
He uses to work for sony before he got fired for saying the above. And who cares? If he is right then it may or may not be a problem depending on how you interpret his post.
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Post by YungAssassin on Feb 9, 2006 2:02:37 GMT -5
i didnt read his post..it was too long lol my bad
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Post by shocker on Feb 9, 2006 9:51:17 GMT -5
It sounds like he was bad mouthing the ps3 and there seemed to be a lot of info about it in there that I didn't know, he deserved being fired imo....
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